# RPi 4 4GB, Power Management & UPS HAT, Official RPi 7" LCD Screen, no screen power up, image **URL:** \ **Category:** Power Management & UPS HAT\ **Created:** [July 26, 2020, 11:57pm UTC](https://community.sixfab.com/t/rpi-4-4gb-power-management-ups-hat-official-rpi-7-lcd-screen-no-screen-power-up-image/588 "2020-07-26T23:57:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![shawnj007](https://community.sixfab.com/user_avatar/community.sixfab.com/shawnj007/32/982_2.png) [@shawnj007](https://community.sixfab.com/u/shawnj007)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 11:57pm UTC](https://community.sixfab.com/t/rpi-4-4gb-power-management-ups-hat-official-rpi-7-lcd-screen-no-screen-power-up-image/588/1 "2020-07-26T23:57:28Z")
LCD is powered from its own supply. The LCD screen does not power on when system power is connected through the UPS HAT. Battery charge led is green in this case and the system boots up and powers USB devices. The LCD back light does not appear to be on. When the pi is connected directly using the same (official RPi) USB-C, the LCD works as expected. Note: I have not installed the soft shutdown pin. Open to that being the issue but I have my doubts. System is as described in the title, but also has the sixfab 3/4G-LTE cellular HAT, and BerryGPS IMUv3. The cellular HAT remains untested for the moment, but the GPS HAT works fine (and is the top-most). I would like to use the battery only to allow soft shutdown when the power source is removed. I do not need to keep it powered but do want it to automatically power the pi when power is re-applied (which I think is already the case). What would be a place to start with further troubleshooting? Are there settings somewhere that I missed? Configuration? Thanks S ---
**Author:** ![shane.dyck](https://community.sixfab.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/bc8723/32.png) [@shane.dyck](https://community.sixfab.com/u/shane.dyck)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://community.sixfab.com/t/rpi-4-4gb-power-management-ups-hat-official-rpi-7-lcd-screen-no-screen-power-up-image/588/2 "2020-08-01T20:35:21Z")
I have the RPi3B. I power my 7" touch screen through the pins on the UPS HAT. I connect the power adapter to the UPS HAT and it charges the battery and I can disconnect the adapter and the entire unit, including LCD functions on battery power. My RPi does not require the supplied POGO pin nor is there a contact point on my Pi for such pin. I don’t know, support seems hard to come by on this forum unless you talk the talk… obviously I do not. ---
**Author:** ![shawnj007](https://community.sixfab.com/user_avatar/community.sixfab.com/shawnj007/32/982_2.png) [@shawnj007](https://community.sixfab.com/u/shawnj007)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.sixfab.com/t/rpi-4-4gb-power-management-ups-hat-official-rpi-7-lcd-screen-no-screen-power-up-image/588/3 "2020-11-03T15:44:28Z")
Finally got around to playing with this again… I have installed the POGO pin and soldered the 5V manually. This solves the screen on problem, but makes another problem quite apparent. How does one get the Rpi to turn on **immediately** upon being plugged into external power. “Safe shutdown” using the battery level is not an acceptable solution to me. I want to the soft shutdown to begin as soon as external power is removed (I solved this, for the most part). Start up seems to be a problem. When I mount the Rpi, I will not have access to the buttons. ---
**Author:** ![shawnj007](https://community.sixfab.com/user_avatar/community.sixfab.com/shawnj007/32/982_2.png) [@shawnj007](https://community.sixfab.com/u/shawnj007)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.sixfab.com/t/rpi-4-4gb-power-management-ups-hat-official-rpi-7-lcd-screen-no-screen-power-up-image/588/4 "2020-11-15T18:24:56Z")
Solved this problem with some external hardware. > [@Immediate power up with external power, safe shutdown when removed](https://community.sixfab.com/t/immediate-power-up-with-external-power-safe-shutdown-when-removed/858/2): > > So, no real fix from sixfab, so I came up with something that does the trick. My solution is to simulate a button press when power comes on with hardware using a 555 timer IC. This works for me, it may work for you, but use it at your own risk. wink The circuit operates by sensing voltage on the power source and uses a mosfet to simulate a quick press on the button. Since the ‘short press’ has no effect when the system is already on, power can be applied/removed in cases where the normal saf…